Though it is time well past writing about Windows 7, here I go back to Teucer's Vista installing experience; where we find out, among other things, that Vista wasn't the first sloppy job from MS and it won't be the last.
Though it certainly seems that Microsoft will have trouble replicate the dysfunctionality that Vista had 'earned' reputation for.
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26/07/2007
Teucer
Windows Vista
Hey! BP gets to bitch about Sprint and Taco Bell... I'm gonna rant about Vista.
1: DirectX 10
Sounds good right? After all, DirectX is backwards compatable, so DirectX 10 will run everything. So, what's the problem? Well, for starters there isn't a single video card out there that utilizes DirectX 10 which means you have to use drivers that have patched together at the last minute... and work about as well as Chevy parts in a Ford.
2: Raptor Drives
Yes, the super-fast hard drives. The problem is that unless you want to spend close to a grand on a HD, you're going to be buying 34G drives... guess what... Vista takes about 17G to install. That's half your drive.
3: Framerate issues
If you try to do just about anything in windowed mode, your framerate is going to clock in at a whopping 15... ... ... That's right... Windows Vista is buggy as hell in windowed mode. WTF?
4: Support Hardware
Vista is so fubar that for an extra $40 a year you can subscribe to a service where Microsoft will regularly check your computer and fix what's wrong. Remember, the big seling point with Vista is that it's supposed to be easier to use than any previous version of Windows... ... ... and in order to use it, it is reccommended that you pay $40 a year to have a Microsoft software engineer set it up for you and keep it running.
5: Raid Drivers
Oh yeah... this is a big one. You know how you have 4 or more HDs so you don't go bankrupt buying Raptors? Well, Vista has a serious problem reccognising multiple drives if you have them in RBD (really big drive... where all your drives act like one big drive) so you finally get frustrated and set them up as individual drives. Guess what, by DVD drive defaulted to "M"... which tells you how much of a pain in the ass that can be.
It's been 6 hours setting up Vista on this computer and the one thing I can tell you is that the Microsoft service number is completely useless...
1: DirectX 10
Sounds good right? After all, DirectX is backwards compatable, so DirectX 10 will run everything. So, what's the problem? Well, for starters there isn't a single video card out there that utilizes DirectX 10 which means you have to use drivers that have patched together at the last minute... and work about as well as Chevy parts in a Ford.
2: Raptor Drives
Yes, the super-fast hard drives. The problem is that unless you want to spend close to a grand on a HD, you're going to be buying 34G drives... guess what... Vista takes about 17G to install. That's half your drive.
3: Framerate issues
If you try to do just about anything in windowed mode, your framerate is going to clock in at a whopping 15... ... ... That's right... Windows Vista is buggy as hell in windowed mode. WTF?
4: Support Hardware
Vista is so fubar that for an extra $40 a year you can subscribe to a service where Microsoft will regularly check your computer and fix what's wrong. Remember, the big seling point with Vista is that it's supposed to be easier to use than any previous version of Windows... ... ... and in order to use it, it is reccommended that you pay $40 a year to have a Microsoft software engineer set it up for you and keep it running.
5: Raid Drivers
Oh yeah... this is a big one. You know how you have 4 or more HDs so you don't go bankrupt buying Raptors? Well, Vista has a serious problem reccognising multiple drives if you have them in RBD (really big drive... where all your drives act like one big drive) so you finally get frustrated and set them up as individual drives. Guess what, by DVD drive defaulted to "M"... which tells you how much of a pain in the ass that can be.
It's been 6 hours setting up Vista on this computer and the one thing I can tell you is that the Microsoft service number is completely useless...
26/07/2007
Teucer
LOL, not really.
But considering how many times it was delayed, you would have thought that Microsoft would have worked out the obvious problems. Found a few more...
6: Hardware incompatability
Fast Track controllers for motherboards are not supported. For those who don't understand what that means, it means that there is an upper limit to the number of PIDE drives you can have installed in your computer. Fast Track is the most common firmware for the extra PIDE sockets on motherboard, and Vista doesn't recognise them.
7: Memory
Yes, Vista is a memory whore. This is not suprising for those of us who are "Old Farts" who remember how much of a memory whore Win95 was compared to Win3.1, but we're talking extreme here. idling Vista is taking up almost 1g of my memory.
8: Broadband Internet Connection
Suffice it to say that your network card is "Plug and Pray". The only way to get your broadband connection to work at first is to use the built-in network plug on your motherboard. Afterwords Vista will download the approapriate drivers automatically (well, it did for me... others weren't so lucky). Of course the error code didn't say the network card wasn't supported, it gave me something like "Service name unrecognised, please contact your Internet Service Provider."
In plain English... Netword Card drivers are not included in Vista and the only way to get the drivers is by going on-line which you can't do because your network card isn't supported... and then they lie to you and say it's the ISP's fault. Typical Microsoft.
NOTE: Concerning RAID. I was finally able to get Vista to recognise all my drives in a RBG format. I had to use "striping" mode.
I'm laying a bet at work... my money's on the prediction that by the time Microsoft gets the major bugs worked out, the new Windows OS will be on the market.
But considering how many times it was delayed, you would have thought that Microsoft would have worked out the obvious problems. Found a few more...
6: Hardware incompatability
Fast Track controllers for motherboards are not supported. For those who don't understand what that means, it means that there is an upper limit to the number of PIDE drives you can have installed in your computer. Fast Track is the most common firmware for the extra PIDE sockets on motherboard, and Vista doesn't recognise them.
7: Memory
Yes, Vista is a memory whore. This is not suprising for those of us who are "Old Farts" who remember how much of a memory whore Win95 was compared to Win3.1, but we're talking extreme here. idling Vista is taking up almost 1g of my memory.
8: Broadband Internet Connection
Suffice it to say that your network card is "Plug and Pray". The only way to get your broadband connection to work at first is to use the built-in network plug on your motherboard. Afterwords Vista will download the approapriate drivers automatically (well, it did for me... others weren't so lucky). Of course the error code didn't say the network card wasn't supported, it gave me something like "Service name unrecognised, please contact your Internet Service Provider."
In plain English... Netword Card drivers are not included in Vista and the only way to get the drivers is by going on-line which you can't do because your network card isn't supported... and then they lie to you and say it's the ISP's fault. Typical Microsoft.
NOTE: Concerning RAID. I was finally able to get Vista to recognise all my drives in a RBG format. I had to use "striping" mode.
I'm laying a bet at work... my money's on the prediction that by the time Microsoft gets the major bugs worked out, the new Windows OS will be on the market.
27/07/2007
Bastardzilla
Typical
This is pretty standard for MS. They always release somethign that is loaded with fuck ups and then issue a shit load of patches followed by a service pack. Of course, if you have your computer running well and you have installed anything, the service pack will completely fuck up everything. Consequently, you will have to format your drive, install your OS and then get the service pack. Then, if your IP address isn't hacked, your computer will run okay. If, on the other hand, your IP address is hacked, you will get loaded up very quickly with all sorts of spyware, malware and viruses. That, of course, will require an online scan for viruses because installing your AV program will generally fuck up your AV program and make it useless.
I fucking love Microsoft.
I fucking love Microsoft.
27/07/2007
Teucer
^^^^
LOL...
Found another problem....
Vista does not come with anti-virus software (and, yes... I bought the premium version). No big deal, Microsoft AV programs have always been clunky pieces of crap that not only take up a huge amount of resources, but are typicaly about three years out of date. However, neither Norton nor MacAfee are compatable with Vista unless you get the 2007 versions.
Now I have this warning that pops up periodically telling me I need AV software and the AV software I have is not compatable. @%#$%@%$#%@$#%@$%$#!!!!!!
LOL...
Found another problem....
Vista does not come with anti-virus software (and, yes... I bought the premium version). No big deal, Microsoft AV programs have always been clunky pieces of crap that not only take up a huge amount of resources, but are typicaly about three years out of date. However, neither Norton nor MacAfee are compatable with Vista unless you get the 2007 versions.
Now I have this warning that pops up periodically telling me I need AV software and the AV software I have is not compatable. @%#$%@%$#%@$#%@$%$#!!!!!!
31/07/2007
Teucer
Okay, am getting Vista tweaked out. I finally got through to a live person at the Microsoft Service line, and he wasn't much help. He told me that it looked like I was going to have to upgrade my computer. LOL, I had to explain to this microdweeb that I am using a 6GHz processor with raptor drives on one of the latest Asus boards on the market... They don't make them much more powerful than I'm using. I hate Customer Service people who don't know what the fuck they are talking about and are reading fucking cue cards.
I finally went to my favorite tech site and got a phome number to call. I got someone who spoke almost passing English, but was actually able to answer some of my questions (Thank god for India!) I've finally got Vista tweaked to where I'm almost happy with it.
I'm telling you... If I didn't need Vista for the new CAD I'm using I'd go back to XP in a heartbeat. Now all I have to do is figure out how to get Vista to use a blueprint plot printer...
Wish me luck.
I finally went to my favorite tech site and got a phome number to call. I got someone who spoke almost passing English, but was actually able to answer some of my questions (Thank god for India!) I've finally got Vista tweaked to where I'm almost happy with it.
I'm telling you... If I didn't need Vista for the new CAD I'm using I'd go back to XP in a heartbeat. Now all I have to do is figure out how to get Vista to use a blueprint plot printer...
Wish me luck.
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